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    <title>dekstop weblog : New Del.icio.us URL History Page, with Bookmarklet</title>
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    <description> del.icio.us apparently has just added a feature that I&apos;ve been wanting for a long time: It&apos;s now very easy to see the history of bookmarks for a specific URL without having to bookmark it yourself. Here&apos;s an example of such a bookmark history page: del.icio.us bookmarks for mailfeed.org. I ...</description>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>did you know the del.icio.us Firefox extension<br />
http://delicious.mozdev.org/  even has a shortcut for this (CTRL + SHIFT + Z), and has had this for ages already :-)<br />
http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2005/04/05/what-use-is-the-social-aspect-of-delicious/</p>]]> &lt;p&gt;- <![CDATA[<a href="http://pascal.vanhecke.info" rel="nofollow">Pascal Van Hecke</a>]]>&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <dc:creator>Pascal Van Hecke</dc:creator>
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      <title>New Del.icio.us URL History Page, with Bookmarklet</title>
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<p>del.icio.us apparently has just added a feature that I've been wanting for a long time: It's now very easy to see the history of bookmarks for a specific URL without having to bookmark it yourself. Here's an example of such a bookmark history page: <a href="http://del.icio.us/url/f885077e94cd0210a9b5870acef67b4f">del.icio.us bookmarks for mailfeed.org</a>.</p>

<p>I regularly check these URL bookmark histories on del.icio.us, because it can answer all kinds of interesting questions, e.g.: How popular is this URL? Since when have people known about this? Who bookmarked this URL first? What are their comments?</p>

<p>I imagine this caters to a small audience, but it's a feature that I'll be using frequently. Here's a simple bookmarklet:</p>

<blockquote>
<p><a href="javascript:document.location='http://del.icio.us/url/check?url='+document.location;">this URL on del.icio.us</a></p>
</blockquote>

<p>And this is really an improvement over the old version. Up until now you needed to do this:</p>

<ul>
  <li>Visit the URL you're interested in.</li>
  <li>Bookmark the URL, if you haven't already done so.</li>
  <li>Go to your del.icio.us profile page.</li>
  <li>Locate the URL's bookmark (which might involve a search if you bookmarked it long ago).</li>
  <li>Click on "and x other people" to get to the URL's bookmark history.</li>
</ul>

<p>And it just became as easy as:</p>

<ul>
  <li>Visit the URL you're interested in.</li>
  <li>Click on the bookmarklet.</li>
</ul>

<p>*Sigh*</p>


<h3>However...</h3>

<p>There is a drawback to this new version of the bookmark history page though. The old version used to list <em>all</em> bookmarks for a URL, including the date, title, description and tags for <em>each individual user</em> -- and all we get now is a summary page, with a tag cloud for this bookmark, the user names, and some user descriptions.</p>

<p>This step understandable when you know Joshua Schachter's oft-repeated caution of making del.icio.us' database too accessible for scrapers. After all, now it's really easy to convert a URL to a hash, and hashes are gateways to del.icio.us metadata.</p>

<p>And it's probably an improvement in usability. We don't have to scan a (potentially long) list, but get presented the executive summary, so to speak. </p>

<p>But my original reason for wanting this feature has suddenly vanished: The history page is not fun any more if you want to do your own data analysis. E.g. you can't easily plot popularity graphs of a URL over time, because del.icio.us won't give you the necessary data any more, or at least not in the detailed, easily parse-able way it used to. </p>

<p>del.icio.us is now doing the analysis for you; tough luck if you're interested in an aspect they decided not to reveal.</p>

<p><strong>Update:</strong> 2006-03-16 -- Jon Udell <a href="http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/2006/03/14.html#a1405">shares the irritation</a>, and has a great example of the kind of custom data analysis that the updated history now prevents.</p>
  

<h3>Related Articles</h3>
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  <li><a href="http://dekstop.de/weblog/2006/03/feed_links_bookmarklet/">Bookmarklet: Display Feed Links on Current Page</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://dekstop.de/weblog/2005/08/better_delicious_bookmarklets/">Better del.icio.us Browser Bookmarklets</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://dekstop.de/weblog/2005/10/delicious_transcript/">Ah, Now I Get It... (An Interview with Joshua Schachter)</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://dekstop.de/weblog/2005/10/irc_bots_on_web_services/">IRC Bots on Web Services</a></li>
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<p>del.icio.us apparently has just added a feature that I've been wanting for a long time: It's now very easy to see the history of bookmarks for a specific URL without having to bookmark it yourself. Here's an example of such a bookmark history page: <a href="http://del.icio.us/url/f885077e94cd0210a9b5870acef67b4f">del.icio.us bookmarks for mailfeed.org</a>.</p>

<p>I regularly check these URL bookmark histories on del.icio.us, because it can answer all kinds of interesting questions, e.g.: How popular is this URL? Since when have people known about this? Who bookmarked this URL first? What are their comments?</p>

<p>I imagine this caters to a small audience, but it's a feature that I'll be using frequently. Here's a simple bookmarklet:</p>

<blockquote>
<p><a href="javascript:document.location='http://del.icio.us/url/check?url='+document.location;">this URL on del.icio.us</a></p>
</blockquote>

<p>And this is really an improvement over the old version. Up until now you needed to do this:</p>

<ul>
  <li>Visit the URL you're interested in.</li>
  <li>Bookmark the URL, if you haven't already done so.</li>
  <li>Go to your del.icio.us profile page.</li>
  <li>Locate the URL's bookmark (which might involve a search if you bookmarked it long ago).</li>
  <li>Click on "and x other people" to get to the URL's bookmark history.</li>
</ul>

<p>And it just became as easy as:</p>

<ul>
  <li>Visit the URL you're interested in.</li>
  <li>Click on the bookmarklet.</li>
</ul>

<p>*Sigh*</p>


<h3>However...</h3>

<p>There is a drawback to this new version of the bookmark history page though. The old version used to list <em>all</em> bookmarks for a URL, including the date, title, description and tags for <em>each individual user</em> -- and all we get now is a summary page, with a tag cloud for this bookmark, the user names, and some user descriptions.</p>

<p>This step understandable when you know Joshua Schachter's oft-repeated caution of making del.icio.us' database too accessible for scrapers. After all, now it's really easy to convert a URL to a hash, and hashes are gateways to del.icio.us metadata.</p>

<p>And it's probably an improvement in usability. We don't have to scan a (potentially long) list, but get presented the executive summary, so to speak. </p>

<p>But my original reason for wanting this feature has suddenly vanished: The history page is not fun any more if you want to do your own data analysis. E.g. you can't easily plot popularity graphs of a URL over time, because del.icio.us won't give you the necessary data any more, or at least not in the detailed, easily parse-able way it used to. </p>

<p>del.icio.us is now doing the analysis for you; tough luck if you're interested in an aspect they decided not to reveal.</p>

<p><strong>Update:</strong> 2006-03-16 -- Jon Udell <a href="http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/2006/03/14.html#a1405">shares the irritation</a>, and has a great example of the kind of custom data analysis that the updated history now prevents.</p>
  

<h3>Related Articles</h3>
<ul class="links">
  <li><a href="http://dekstop.de/weblog/2006/03/feed_links_bookmarklet/">Bookmarklet: Display Feed Links on Current Page</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://dekstop.de/weblog/2005/08/better_delicious_bookmarklets/">Better del.icio.us Browser Bookmarklets</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://dekstop.de/weblog/2005/10/delicious_transcript/">Ah, Now I Get It... (An Interview with Joshua Schachter)</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://dekstop.de/weblog/2005/10/irc_bots_on_web_services/">IRC Bots on Web Services</a></li>
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